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Police union chief calls killing of 12-year-old justified

2014-12-16_1512After being voted out as the Cleveland police union president and in the wake of the blistering Department of Justice investigation that revealed evidence of systemic abuse within the CPD department, Jeffrey Follmer, was on MSNBC’s All In with Chris Hayes, discussing the Tamir Rice shooting — one which he called “justified” — and the disagreement over a nfl_g_hawkins_600x600Browns wide receiver sporting a T-shirt message and demanding justice for Rice and police shooting victim John Crawford III.

The first half of the segment revolved around a choked-up Andrew Hawkins, whose Tamir Rice T-shirt made the police union all angry this week. He said he sported the message for his son, whose future as a black man in America is of great concern to him.

The Browns have said they won’t apologize to the police department on behalf of Hawkins, which only rankled the union and its incoming and outgoing leaders even more.

“We’re not apologizing to anybody,” Follmer said. “They need to do it to us.”

There was an interesting back-and-forth late in the segment as Follmer was being interviewed by host Ari Melber.

AM: “When you say that he, as we read your statement, doesn’t know the facts of the law, how you do apply that logic? Wouldn’t that apply to any citizen who may not be a police expert but has some legitimate view of police conduct? Don’t you think at a certain point that this kind of reaction risks feeding the perception that some of these police unions or some folks here don’t think they’re accountable to public views?”

JF: “You know, there’s a video of this, and everything speaks for itself. The male’s action spoke for itself. The video clearly shows, and by the officers’ statement, that they were justified in the, in the deadly force.”

And there’s more, including a moment where Follmer just says Hawkins is “wrong.” Click here to watch full video 

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